Wednesday, February 10, 2010

If Jesus the false name of YESHUA is God , why he called ELI ,ELI?

ELI means my God ,my God , not my father ,my father means ABBA ? so who are these God come from ? you get a barber God in Isaiah 7 verse 20 ,you get a wrestler God fight a long night with Jacob Genesis 32 verse 24 to 31 , a warrior God Exodus 15 verse 3 , joshua10 ;14 ,10 ;42 , in 23 verse 3 you get a God eat meat and bread with Abraham in Genesis 17 verse 17, who are these God ?from where they come ? is it not from your bible ?,please give a a good answer , i want to be christian convince me ,is the bible not the words of God from where come contradictions ,did the God not go to toilet ?If Jesus the false name of YESHUA is God , why he called ELI ,ELI?
ELI ELI (Aramaic) = ELAHI ELAHI (Arabic)


which translates to ';My Allah My Allah'; (English)


God is ';Allah / Elah / Eloh / Elohim';.


He is Allah the One and Only; Allah, the Eternal, Absolute; He begets not nor is He begotten; And there is none like unto Him.If Jesus the false name of YESHUA is God , why he called ELI ,ELI?
Jesu was quoting the 22 psalm. He went into the pit of hell for YOUR and my sins. He went there with God's word in his mouth and in His heart. That is what raised him from the dead. If YOU put God's word in YOUR heart, those words will raise your dead spirit from darkness to life.
Eli comes originally from the ';Elohim'; which is the Caananite name for God. In Hebrew this is YHWH.
I would answer if this question made more senses.
He is Alpha and Omega, The beginning and the End





God bless you for inquiring about my Lord and Savior. Firstly it is not for man to convince you. No matter what Christian speaks to you, if God has not called you then you will not serve him:





John 6:44 No-one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him and I will raise him up on the last day.





John 7:65 He went on to say This is why I told you that no one can come to me unless the Father has enabled him





So you see we do not choose God he chooses us.





As for the scriptures above you need to read all the verse or it can be confusing for instance





Gen 32:24 Speaks of Jacob not giving up until the Lord blessed him and he overcame so the Lord blessed him





Exodus 15:3 This is a song Moses sang after the Lord had delivered his people out of the hands of Pharaoh and the Lord fought that battle for them by opening up the sea





Gen 17:17 has no mention of God eating bread and he is a spirit so at that point in time that would not be so





If you are a child of God you would/will pray that the Lord gives you the gift of revelation regarding his word because he has said





Mark 4:11 He told them The secret of the kingdom of God has been given to you (his children/choosen ones) But those on the outside (unbelivers) every thing is said in parables so that they may be ever seeing but never perceiving (you can read the rest of this you like)





I hope this has helped you pray to the Lord that the spirit of confusion leaves you.





God bless you and I would like to be the first to welcome you into the Kingdom of the Most high.....
El = God. Allah = The God. Eli = My God.


Yeshua = Savior (if Jesus had been born in England, his name would be Joshua or in Spain, Salvador. They both mean ';Savior.';)


Abba = Father.


There are many divine beings, including human beings and angels. Only one of them is God. That would be Elohim/Allah. He is the one Jesus prayed to. He is the Most High. He is the Father of Spirits. He is the ';only true God'; who taught Jesus, sent Jesus, and acknowledged Jesus as his own son on four different occasions. Only one divine being is our savior. That would be Jehovah, whom Jesus claimed to be, the son of Elohim. Really, if you don't know your own religious roots, don't scoff at other people's beliefs.





Isaiah 7:20 In the same day shall the Lord shave with a razor that is hired, namely, by them beyond the river, by the king of Assyria, the head, and the hair of the feet: and it shall also consume the beard.





God is not a barber. Neither is the Lord. That ';razor'; is the king of Assyria. It is a metaphor. Shaving the head, the beard, and/or the feet was what you did to a slave to embarrass and humiliate him.





Genesis 32:24-31 If God is a spirit, as most people believe, then it wasn't God who wrestled him. Did you even read the passage? It was an man (a translated human being or a human being enlisted by God to test Jacob) who wrestled with him. The only thing that makes the guy look like an angel instead of a prophet is that he thought his name was unimportant to Jacob. Jacob's inference in verse 30 could be incorrect; having power with God does not establish that he beat God in a wrestling match. Either that, or there is some part of the record that is incorrect or missing.





Exodus 15: Those are the words of Moses, not of the Lord. However, Jehovah often called himself Jehovah of the Armies, or the LORD of Hosts. Besides, do you want a weak, wimpy, pacifist savior, or somebody who's able to go mano a mano with the forces of darkness to save your ungrateful and arrogant skin?





That ';God'; who ate with Abraham was a translated human being or a prophet who was commanded to deliver the Lord's message to Abraham verbatim. Angels always speak as though they were the Lord, and then they become highly embarrassed when human beings attempt to worship them. It's kind of feeble to say, ';The Lord wanted me to say this to you, so you'd better pay attention.';





If a resurrected being, especially a divine one like Jesus, can eat, then one would assume that he either has to regurgitate the food when no one is looking or let nature take its course. You lost all my respect with that last offensive statement of yours. Why do you have to be such a troll? You are serving no God by destroying people's faith and happiness. If you think we are mistaken, would not an outreach in love and kindness work better? Of course it would, but you are not God's servant.
Yahshua is the human manifestation of Yahweh. There is only one God, His Name is Yahweh. Yahweh appeared in the form of a man to Adam, Abraham, Jacob, Moses, and to Samuel. However, Yahweh also appeared in the form of a man when He came to walk upon earth as the Messiah, He chose the Name Yahshua for Himself and His Messianic ambitions.





Isaiah 43:11 [b]';I, I am 讬讛讜讛 (Yahweh), and besides Me there is no saviour.';[/b]





Consider the following verses which all say that it was Yahweh, not ';the LORD,'; who appeared in the form of a man.





Genesis 18:1


';And 讬讛讜讛 (Yahweh) appeared to him by the terebinth trees of Mamre, while he was sitting in the tent door in the heat of the day.';





Genesis 18:22


';So the men turned away from there and went toward Sedoom, but 讬讛讜讛 (Yahweh) still stood before Abraham.';





Genesis 32:24


';And Yaaqob was left alone. And a Man wrestled with him until the breaking of day.';





Genesis 32:30


';And Yaaqob called the name of the place Peni鈥櫮昹, 'For I have seen Elohim face to face, and my life is preserved.'';





Exodus 34:5


';And 讬讛讜讛 (Yahweh) came down in the cloud and stood with him [Moses] there, and proclaimed the Name, 讬讛讜讛 (Yahweh).';





Also consider:





isaiah 12:2-3 ';'See, El is my deliverance, I trust and am not afraid. For Yah, 讬讛讜讛 (Yahweh), is my strength and my song; and He has become my deliverance (yahshua).' And you shall draw water with joy from the fountains of deliverance (yahshua).';





This above passage is revealing by the same word for deliverance has the exact same pronunciation of the Messiah's Name, that of Yahshua. In other words Yahweh because Yahshua, He became our salvation, in order for us to be able to draw living water from Him through His Spirit. This is a very Messianic prophecy!





The word ';El'; is the singular form for the word meaning God. ';Elohim'; is the plural form. He specifically used the singular form since Yahshua (Yahweh's human manifestation) was hanging upon the upright pole (staurus) at the time when our sin was placed upon Him. At that moment the Spirit of God departed Yahshua, hence Yahshua was completely on His own descending into Hades/Sheol, hence why He called out ';El, El...';
Plase, allow me to correct you - not out of sarcasm - but (at the end I will tell you) because the reason is extremely important although insignificant to look at.





* ';if Jesus the false name of...'; you must us a VERB when making a question. Otherwise make punctuations.





* '; he called ELI ,ELI'; This was done in order to fulfill the prophesy that He would do so. If you notice the text, it says ';He shouted in a loud voice...'; Can someone beaten up all night, bleeding and tortured, ';shout'; aloud and in full voice for every one to hear? No.





* ';ABBA'; is a greek form. The paleo greek is a mirror of the paleo-hebrew. My suggestion is for you to find out the characters that were written ABBA and transpose them into paleo greek, then compare with the paleo-hebrew scripture for ';Father'; and - most probably - they will be the same.





* most of the words in english translated ';god'; come from the hebrew word Elohin. Some angels were called gods by man. satan IS the god of this system.





Finally, if you can not find your way with words that speak of this world, how do you expect to find the way to God?





Jesus - Yeshua, Ha Meshiac - He said ';I am the way, the life and the truth; nobody goes to the Father, but through me';.
The word 'Eloah' appears more than 70 times in the Tanakh (Hebrew) while it is called Elah in Aramaic. Please check this with someone who read the Bible in Hebrew and Aramaic. But the Arabs has no letter 'E'; and they only have 'Alif' which is an 'A'. So the Arabs call God as 'Allah', you can check it in the Quran and the Arabic Bible.





http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Names_o鈥?/a>





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About the contradictions in the Bible ... it indicates that the Bible isn't the true word of God.





1. Dr. W. Graham Scroggie (Moody Bible Institute, Chicago) was asked ';Is the Bible the Word of God?';.





He answered, ';Yes, the Bible is human, though some, out of zeal which is not according to knowledge, have denied this. Those books have passed through the minds of men, are written in the language of men, were penned by the hands of men, and bear in their style the characteristics of men.';





2. Dr. Joseph Parker unique eulogy of the Bible:





';What a book is The Bible in the matter of variety of contents . . . whole pages are taken up with obscure names, and more is told of a genealogy than of The Day Of Judgement. Stories are half told, and the night falls before we can tell where victory lay. where is there anything'; (in the Religious Literature of the world) ';To correspond with this?'; A beautiful necklace of words and phrases undoubtedly! It is much ado about nothing, and rank blasphemy against God Almighty for authorising such an embarrassing hotch potch. Yet the Christians gloat over the very defects of their book, like Romeo over the ';mole'; on Juliet's lip!





3. Kenneth Cragg, the Anglican Bishop of Jerusalem, ';The Call of the Minaret';:





';Not so the New Testament . . . There is condensation and editing; there is choice, reproduction and witness. The Gospels have come through the mind of the Church behind the authors. They represent experience and history.';
The Bible = FAKE


The Quran = FAKE


The Torah = FAKE
jesus is a myth. You can call it anything you would like.

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